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the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth but propaganda. it is about ginny up support of gun lobby, for buying guns. it's about ginnying up a membership and donors to that organization. and they do that very well. i mean, i think historically, when's happened to the nra is the court controversy and in that way they become more powerful because they're able to swell their membership. >> so in fairness, chris, i won't ask you relating to republicans but to some democrats, joe manchin's comments regarding the president said i'm disappointed the president did not recommend the creation of a national commission on mass violence as i proposed. max bacchus said we need a law in montana instead of one size fits all directive of washington. not the fringe republicans, not behind the nra ad, but still, similar talking points from them that would fall with some of the things we have heard out of the nra, chris. does your party or some within your party need -- since rick perry said it's about prayer, do they need a come to jesus moment, as well? >> he
the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth but propaganda. it is about ginny up support of gun lobby, for buying guns. it's about ginnying up a membership and donors to that organization. and they do that very well. i mean, i think historically, when's happened to the nra is the court controversy and in that way they become more powerful because they're able to swell their membership. >> so in fairness, chris, i won't ask you relating to republicans but to some democrats, joe manchin's...
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it was not the nra is so powerful. he paid tribute to the power of the american people to influence congress to say yes to some things that even congress is not inclined to say yes to. >> the only way we can change is if the american people demand it. and that doesn't mean from just certain parts of the country. we're going to need voices in those areas and those congressional districts where the tradition of gun ownership is strong to speak up. this will not happen unless the american people demand it. if parents and teachers, police officers and pastors, if hunters and sportsman, if every american stands up and says, enough, we suffered too much pain and care too much about our children to allow this to continue, then change will come. you know, in the letter that julia wrote me, she said i know that laws have to be passed by congress. but i beg you to try very hard. julie, i will try very hard. but she's right. the most important changes we can make depend on congressional action. they need to bring these proposals
it was not the nra is so powerful. he paid tribute to the power of the american people to influence congress to say yes to some things that even congress is not inclined to say yes to. >> the only way we can change is if the american people demand it. and that doesn't mean from just certain parts of the country. we're going to need voices in those areas and those congressional districts where the tradition of gun ownership is strong to speak up. this will not happen unless the american...
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sort of the nra checklist and the second amendment versus this drawing by this kid. that's a powerful image for these people. >> you have to remember the second amendment is still there, and the supreme court cases on it are still there, and he doesn't have any power to change that. >> nor is he trying to change it. >> no, but that really limits the scope of what he can do. >> i don't think the president has ever said we're going to do these things and never going to have another newtown. i think constantly he has said shouldn't we be doing the best that we can be doing? shouldn't we try to have more effective gun safety laws? shouldn't we try to understand an interlinkage between violence in the media and violence in our cities and schools? >> i'm not faulting the president on either his messaging or his intent, but i think that sort of realistically when you look at things like the assault weapons ban, there's no evidence that the one that we had any impact. maybe it will do something different with it next time, but, many of the, the stuff that's within the kind o
sort of the nra checklist and the second amendment versus this drawing by this kid. that's a powerful image for these people. >> you have to remember the second amendment is still there, and the supreme court cases on it are still there, and he doesn't have any power to change that. >> nor is he trying to change it. >> no, but that really limits the scope of what he can do. >> i don't think the president has ever said we're going to do these things and never going to...
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the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping living with moderate to semeans living with pain.is it could also mean living with joint damage. humira, adalimumab, can help treat more than just the pain. for many adults, humira is clinically proven to help relieve pain and stop further joint damage. humira can lower
the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our...
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so you wonder about of this kind of vaunted nra is i think becoming no longer a vaunted nra. it's becoming somewhat more of a paper tiger than a caged tiger because these statements and this communications strategy is not winning any friends. it's losing lots of friends and that's why i think you even hear a lot of pro-nra members saying the kinds of things that the white house are talking about makts a lot of sense and it all shows up in the polling. the poll something overwhelmingly for doing the things that the vice president is talking about. >> but, dr. peterson, you have heard some of the things coming out from gun advocates and the nra. what is your reaction to this kind of rhetoric? it's sounding increasingly hallucinating. >> there's a lot of what we call trickology going on here. theer those on the right who are mouthpieces for the gun manufacturing lobby, what they have done is they've taken this sort of american notion of the second amendment and that he try to use this as a prop to actually continue to be able to sell more guns and to continue to along the lines
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they don't need to be nra members to have that feeling. the nra is powerful. these outside groups get more credit than they deserve. there's a bunch of people that own guns they don't need an nra sticker to feel passionate about that issue. >> we'll see you later on "morning joe." now to a developing overseas where american citizens are among dozens of people being held in a hostage standoff. this is unfolding now in the is a had-- sahara desert. dozens of hostages who work at the plant including americans. officials say at least two people were killed during the raid. the militants claim the take is revenge for france's military operation against rebels in neighboring mali. the u.s. providing assistance to that effort. take a listen to leon panetta talking about this standoff. >> by all indications this is a terrorist act and the united states strongly condemns these kinds of terrorist acts. it's a very serious matter when americans are taken hostage along with others. >> the algierian military says it has the oil compound is your rounded adding it will not n
they don't need to be nra members to have that feeling. the nra is powerful. these outside groups get more credit than they deserve. there's a bunch of people that own guns they don't need an nra sticker to feel passionate about that issue. >> we'll see you later on "morning joe." now to a developing overseas where american citizens are among dozens of people being held in a hostage standoff. this is unfolding now in the is a had-- sahara desert. dozens of hostages who work at...
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the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? husband. loving father to your children. but first you've got to get him to say, "hello." new crest 3d white arctic fresh toothpaste. use it with these 3d white products, and whiten your teeth in just 2 days. what will a 3d white smile do for you? new crest 3d white toothpaste. life opens up when you do. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no
the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? husband. loving father to your children. but...
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the headlines were, turning point in the war against the nra. the nra's now in retreat. the dynamics have changed and we remember what happened after that. >> paid a price. >> democrats kind of backed off guns in clinton years and then gore losing the rural states and now again saying can they beat the nra? >> i'm reminded all last year we talked a lot about republicans living in a bubble. right? sort of refusing to believe the reality of the election and how it was going for mitt romney and president obama. i think republicans truly believed that most of america hated the president. and that that would solve the election. well, most of the country actually really liked obama. whatever they thought of his policies and i think refusing to work in the realm of the real really hurt republicans. i would offer the same advice to some gun control advocates who often refuse to work in the realm of the real. i think they truly believe most of the country is anti-gun and despises the nra and that just isn't the case. there's a great piece in bloomberg business week saying what ex
the headlines were, turning point in the war against the nra. the nra's now in retreat. the dynamics have changed and we remember what happened after that. >> paid a price. >> democrats kind of backed off guns in clinton years and then gore losing the rural states and now again saying can they beat the nra? >> i'm reminded all last year we talked a lot about republicans living in a bubble. right? sort of refusing to believe the reality of the election and how it was going for...
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here's the point on the nra ad. many republicans have taken money and not one of them have come out and said that ad is over the top. do you think they should? >> oh, yeah, i think they should. i agree with andrea mitchell's question. why are we invoking the president's children here? why are we making a false equivalency for the president and his family and this issue? this is confusing. >> i'm waiting for speaker boehner to come out and say all of this talk about impeachment, civil war, this is not the republican party that i want to lead. don't make common cause as mitt romney did during the campaign. let's not get involved here with this sort of tactic. >> i don't think they're going to be doing it any time soon. they're taking their lead from the nra. and the nra came out and said it's prepared to do the battle of the century. barack obama, joe biden and their gun allies only want to blame you, vilify you and strip you of your second amendment freedoms. these lines are pretty clear here. is this where the repub
here's the point on the nra ad. many republicans have taken money and not one of them have come out and said that ad is over the top. do you think they should? >> oh, yeah, i think they should. i agree with andrea mitchell's question. why are we invoking the president's children here? why are we making a false equivalency for the president and his family and this issue? this is confusing. >> i'm waiting for speaker boehner to come out and say all of this talk about impeachment,...
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about that nra video. thanks for coming on the show. >> good to be with you. >> congressman, let me go to you first. is the congress ready to take action and override the nra? >> if this is going to happen, it's going to happen from the bottom up. that's what a democracy is all about. that's why we elect a president. to lead. and this president showed us again why those of us who worked so hard to get them elected are so proud of his leadership. a president is elected to show the courage that others won't. to stand up to people who intimidate others. you know, to stand, to face down the bullies in our society so as to protect the innocent and the vauler inble. >> now, you said must come from the bottom up, congressman, what do you mean by that? >> well, what i mean is there are 300 of my colleagues in the house who have an a rating from the nra. i think most of them are, frankly, intimidated by the nra because they know that the nra responds not so much to its membership, but to the manufacturers, the peop
about that nra video. thanks for coming on the show. >> good to be with you. >> congressman, let me go to you first. is the congress ready to take action and override the nra? >> if this is going to happen, it's going to happen from the bottom up. that's what a democracy is all about. that's why we elect a president. to lead. and this president showed us again why those of us who worked so hard to get them elected are so proud of his leadership. a president is elected to show...
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just how out of touch is the nra? the gun rights group has given no ground since the newtown school shooting and is now running a new ad that goes after the president's daughters. has the group finally given up the veneer of having from both parties? americans are generally turning on them and many of their policies are deeply unpopular. i'm talking about the nra. and they're facing right now, we'll see. will the republican party go along the same road the nra is taking? joining me now is my friend and colleague joe scarborough who often speaks common sense from the center right. is it fair to say you're in the center right politically? where would you like to have a third party describe you? i think you are center right. i'm somewhere over to the left, but i think you're somewhere on the other side of the middle point. where are you? >> you know, for the most part i'm where i was when i was in congress. 95% conservative rating. and we could start a debate right now over debt. let me just -- because this is an importa
just how out of touch is the nra? the gun rights group has given no ground since the newtown school shooting and is now running a new ad that goes after the president's daughters. has the group finally given up the veneer of having from both parties? americans are generally turning on them and many of their policies are deeply unpopular. i'm talking about the nra. and they're facing right now, we'll see. will the republican party go along the same road the nra is taking? joining me now is my...
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so, what is your bhej to the nra, does the gaming industry have a message to the nra? >> our message to the nra is the same as the message to everyone. look at the science. the supreme court looked at all the science when the forces of sentence s -- censorship wanted to ban the games and it was roundly rejected. there's no evidence that violent video games cause violence and there's good evidence, good research coming out now that video games even violent video games have benefits. helping to reduce aggression. when people are feeling stressed and angry and they play a video game that has violence in it, they often come out feeling less stressed and angry afterwards. and violent video games are only sold to adults, children cannot buy them, adults can buy them and play them themselves. >> daniel, thank you for taking time out for me, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> absolutely. ach began president, has returned home. and the earth guesting hotter, this year maerked the hottest year on record, how do we analyze this? we will talk about that next. you are watching msnbc
so, what is your bhej to the nra, does the gaming industry have a message to the nra? >> our message to the nra is the same as the message to everyone. look at the science. the supreme court looked at all the science when the forces of sentence s -- censorship wanted to ban the games and it was roundly rejected. there's no evidence that violent video games cause violence and there's good evidence, good research coming out now that video games even violent video games have benefits....
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. >> adding bilt to the read beat rhetoric from the right t national rifle association, the nra ramping up its fight and defending its new ad featuring the president's daughters. >> it wasn't about the president's daughters, what it is about is the fact that this whole debate is how to keep children safe. we believe that every parent ought to be able to be comfortable knowing that their children are safe and if that requires armed security, it's as good for the working man as it is for the president. >> joining me from washington is nbc news capital hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. linds yay graham, his i'm confident that there will be bipartisan opposition and then roy blunt says that this is the president trying to curbs the rights of middle class americans. >> reporter: certainly we don't expect anything coming from the republican-led house so the pressure really falls on the senate democrats. and what we expect is that when they come back next week, of course we have got the inauguration and then senior aides tell us they plan to meet with the democrats within the senate to talk
. >> adding bilt to the read beat rhetoric from the right t national rifle association, the nra ramping up its fight and defending its new ad featuring the president's daughters. >> it wasn't about the president's daughters, what it is about is the fact that this whole debate is how to keep children safe. we believe that every parent ought to be able to be comfortable knowing that their children are safe and if that requires armed security, it's as good for the working man as it is...
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and the nra president david keen blasted mr. biden and the administration when he appeared on the "today" show this morning. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration, first of all, on what would make that difference. i don't think there's a welcome of concern about dealing with the problem. i think there's a very different view as to what the problem is and how to solve it. >> keene's comments follow the statement of the nra immediately after the meeting yesterday. quote, we were disapointed how much the meeting had to do with keeping the children safe but an agenda to attack the second amendment. >> i think we can do a great deal without in any way imposing on or impinging on the rights of the second amendment. >> that was the vice president before the meeting started. joining me now, nia-malaki h henderson and keith boynekin. are you surprise fwid reaction post meeting and even going in to the meeting from the nra at this point? >> no. the reaction seems to be typical. they don't want to address any sort of
and the nra president david keen blasted mr. biden and the administration when he appeared on the "today" show this morning. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration, first of all, on what would make that difference. i don't think there's a welcome of concern about dealing with the problem. i think there's a very different view as to what the problem is and how to solve it. >> keene's comments follow the statement of the nra immediately after the meeting...
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the president will be going up against the nra. you need to see where the president goes, how often he goes. and exactly what he's going to be saying out on the stump. if he does his, this campaign for gun control like he did his re-election campaign then i don't put it past the president to get something through congress. i don't know what it will be. i want will be hard to get anything through a republican congress. he can do that, yes. >> thanks so much for your perspective. >> thanks. >> turning now to sports. the nba, heat vz the wizards, 28-year-old lebron james is now the youngest player to reach the 20,000 point mark in his career. only 38 other players have reached that point. heat cruised to an easy win over golden state 92-75. >>> overtime thriller as chicago's dang hit a jump shot with three second left on the clock. >>> and a dramatic upset in college basketball as maryland was trailing with five seconds left in the game. one shot missed but alex grabbed it and scored to knock off number 14 north carolina state, 51-50.
the president will be going up against the nra. you need to see where the president goes, how often he goes. and exactly what he's going to be saying out on the stump. if he does his, this campaign for gun control like he did his re-election campaign then i don't put it past the president to get something through congress. i don't know what it will be. i want will be hard to get anything through a republican congress. he can do that, yes. >> thanks so much for your perspective. >>...
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i bring up the nra. they spent over $20 million in the last decade on lobbying people that you have to deal with on a daily basis, our lawmakers. if the lawmakers that you are kmu behind the scenes are are taking queues from the nra, what will make the american people believe if the ground is moving these two sides together? >> the nra has it 180 degrees wrong. we are not going to harm the needs and the aspirations of the legitimate gun owner. we are not going to do that at all. unlike what they are suggesting, we are going to protect the children of america. they have it 180 degrees from the truth. we are not going to affect -- >> which do you think will pass. i know you said a 50-50 chance that an assault weapons ban will be put in place. what do you believe will passing through congress? >> i think magazines and assault weapons will pass. i think background checks will pass. i think there will be more resources for people. i think we will address mental health. what we will do is do this in a comprehe
i bring up the nra. they spent over $20 million in the last decade on lobbying people that you have to deal with on a daily basis, our lawmakers. if the lawmakers that you are kmu behind the scenes are are taking queues from the nra, what will make the american people believe if the ground is moving these two sides together? >> the nra has it 180 degrees wrong. we are not going to harm the needs and the aspirations of the legitimate gun owner. we are not going to do that at all. unlike...
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this is the first time they publicly reached out to the nra. they will meet tomorrow, but don't expect wayne la pierre to be there. they are sending a representative in his place. biden will release a statement here with us for the first time in 2013, howard fineman, director of the "huffington post" media group. welcome back to the show. first of all -- we have got the news of the pending white house meeting with the nra with representatives and we don't know the details yet. am i right to be cynical that the white house has to look like they are reaching out and look like they are receptive to it and neither wants to be talking to the another. other. >> that will be about the most insigne seer hand shake. wayne la pierre won't be there. it's possible that they are out here and looking for someone right now. >> howard, i do know. it's going to be james l. baker who was a 30-year vet, former executive director of the nra. we do know. >> good. the symbolism is still such that there is no deal with the nra unless wayne la pierre is in the room an
this is the first time they publicly reached out to the nra. they will meet tomorrow, but don't expect wayne la pierre to be there. they are sending a representative in his place. biden will release a statement here with us for the first time in 2013, howard fineman, director of the "huffington post" media group. welcome back to the show. first of all -- we have got the news of the pending white house meeting with the nra with representatives and we don't know the details yet. am i...
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>> i think this is a very risky move by the nra. they have taken a pretty hard line, you know, that news conference with wayne lapierre and in their comments since, and ron's covered a lot of campaigns, as have i. i think this may be the toughest, not quite sure what the right word is, edgeiest ad i have seen by a mainstream advocacy group or political campaign in my memory, because we do think of the kids of the president as being largely off-limits. the obamas don't put them forward in this debate and i think that probably makes a lot of americans uncomfortable. if they wanted attention, well, they succeeded in that. >> well, meantime, the president is going to announce several proposals for congress to consider. among them, universal background checks on gun buyers anywhere, including trade shows, harsher penalties for gun sellers who don't do those checks, a ban on high capacity ammunition magazines and that renewed assault weapons ban. i'm wondering, ron, is this a liberal base wish list or is the president going to fight this
>> i think this is a very risky move by the nra. they have taken a pretty hard line, you know, that news conference with wayne lapierre and in their comments since, and ron's covered a lot of campaigns, as have i. i think this may be the toughest, not quite sure what the right word is, edgeiest ad i have seen by a mainstream advocacy group or political campaign in my memory, because we do think of the kids of the president as being largely off-limits. the obamas don't put them forward in...
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now, neither one of those guys have resigned from the board of the nra over the nra's sleazy use of the president's children and their use of the propaganda. we'll expose more members of the board of the nra coming up. and next, howard dean will join me with his reaction to the nra's tactics. i have low testosterone. there, i said it. how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. we discussed all the symptoms... then he gave me some blood tests. showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number -- not just me. [ male announcer ] today, men with low t have androgel 1.62% (testosterone gel). the #1 prescribed topical testosterone replacement therapy, increases testosterone when used daily. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty in a child, or signs in a woman, which may include changes in body hair or a large increase
now, neither one of those guys have resigned from the board of the nra over the nra's sleazy use of the president's children and their use of the propaganda. we'll expose more members of the board of the nra coming up. and next, howard dean will join me with his reaction to the nra's tactics. i have low testosterone. there, i said it. how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's...
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the nra has many members, i have no argument with them. i have a challenge with the leadership who sometimes think they can go run around in the halls of washington. they don't realize we have got more lobbyists out there and the sad fact of the matter is that we have all seen the blood, we have seen the shooting, we have seen the loss and if they want to have a fight, let's have a fight. the gun manufacturers want to take on the mayors of america? okay, guess who buys a whole lot of guns, police forces, so if you want to have that kind of a battle, let's have it. >> you made a good point at the beginning, this isn't just about gun control, you're talking about stopping gun violence. but part of the nra's message that's been so successful is that the kinds of things the president is talking about and that you and the other mayors are talking about is part of a slippery slope that you want to take away their guns. how do you convince them that what you're saying that you support the second amendment as opposed to what they're saying at the
the nra has many members, i have no argument with them. i have a challenge with the leadership who sometimes think they can go run around in the halls of washington. they don't realize we have got more lobbyists out there and the sad fact of the matter is that we have all seen the blood, we have seen the shooting, we have seen the loss and if they want to have a fight, let's have a fight. the gun manufacturers want to take on the mayors of america? okay, guess who buys a whole lot of guns,...
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the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm happy you made regarding gun manufacturers and the amount of money they put into the everyday moms and dads that they like to refer to. thank you very much for your time. it's a pleasure. a 15-year-old high school band majorette performed at somebody president obama's festivities has become a latest shooting victim. she was shot in the back tuesday in a park. authorities say she was one of about a dozen teens standing under a canopy during heavy rain when a man ran towards the fence and opened fire. a teen boy was also shot in the lug. he belonged
the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm...
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the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've learned since the newtown tragedy that wayne lapierre represents the interests of gun manufacturers, not of gun owners. i think it's clear there's a lot of daylight between the two. one of the things that became clear today in the hearing, i think, was that lapierre's credibility is quickly evapor e evaporating. even amongst republicans who are squeamish about the lunatic things this guy has said from time to time. not just going after the president's children. not just the idea we ought to be marketing assaults to 10-year-old kids. when chairman leahy today exposed the fact lap
the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've...
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i got a lot of nra money and a lot of nra members sloshing around in my district, and i have to explain this to them, but i'm going to find a way. >> vice president biden seems to be very determined. i mean, he has been so intense on this, there would be egg on his face if something didn't happen, i think. and i think he is more than well intended. are you hearing from anyone, any of the people who have been to these meetings as to whether they believe something is going to get done? >> well, sure. we've been in there a couple of times now, and we absolutely believe, first of all, that he is the right person to be doing this. he was instrumental in passing some of the really good gun laws we passed in this country the last time we did it. >> the clinton crime bill. >> during the clinton administration. he is very close to law enforcement. he is from kind of the heart of the country, and he understands -- he understands how people think about this issue. and basically, people want their kids to be safe. they don't want felons getting guns. and in fact, we know how to stop that from happe
i got a lot of nra money and a lot of nra members sloshing around in my district, and i have to explain this to them, but i'm going to find a way. >> vice president biden seems to be very determined. i mean, he has been so intense on this, there would be egg on his face if something didn't happen, i think. and i think he is more than well intended. are you hearing from anyone, any of the people who have been to these meetings as to whether they believe something is going to get done?...
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now, neither one of those guys have resigned from the board of the nra over the nra's sleazy use of the president's children and their use of the propaganda. we'll expose more members of the board of the nra coming up. and next, howard dean will join me with his reaction to the nra's tactics. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of these risk factors can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup in their arteries. so it's even more important to lower their cholesterol, and that's why, when diet and exercise alone aren't enough, i prescribe crestor. in a clinical trial v
now, neither one of those guys have resigned from the board of the nra over the nra's sleazy use of the president's children and their use of the propaganda. we'll expose more members of the board of the nra coming up. and next, howard dean will join me with his reaction to the nra's tactics. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our...
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the nra chief lobbyist reacting to the president's speech. and in the rewrite tonight, why conservatives who have been wrong about everything, and i do mean everything, could not understand president obama's inaugural address. [ man ] i've been out there most of my life. you name it...i've hooked it. but there's one... one that's always eluded me. thought i had it in the blizzard of '93. ha! never even came close. sometimes, i actually think it's mocking me. [ engine revs ] what?! quattro!!!!! ♪ how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. we discussed all the symptoms... then he gave me some blood tests. showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number -- not just me. [ male announcer ] today, men with low t have androgel 1.62% (testosterone gel). the #1 prescribed topical testosterone replacement therapy, increases testosterone when used daily. women and children should avoid
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looking within the nra, i think it's something like 74% of nra members also support a larger background check process. >> yeah. >> it isn't monolithic, one. two, i think it's also important that the president is probably going to announce several different kinds of tools, things he expects the congress to do and wants the congress to do but also things he can do within his own administrative or executive authority. so he can move this debate, start getting things done but also go for the push that robert was talking about. >> all right. i want to move on to some other news stories. we're going to get to the coca-cola story, but this is about chuck hagel. and chuck todd, ben wrote about how the pro-israel lobby won the chuck hagel fight, saying in part this. "the good news for hagel's allies and defenders is that schumer offered his tentative support for the former nebraska republican senator. the bad news for hagel's allies among realist foreign policy thinkers and on the foreign policy left is that the nominee appears to have gotten schumer's support by repudiating virtually everything
looking within the nra, i think it's something like 74% of nra members also support a larger background check process. >> yeah. >> it isn't monolithic, one. two, i think it's also important that the president is probably going to announce several different kinds of tools, things he expects the congress to do and wants the congress to do but also things he can do within his own administrative or executive authority. so he can move this debate, start getting things done but also go...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats that you -- >> we won four out of seven. four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful -- >> mr. bloomberg's experimental anti-nra pac spending, it did focus on seven races in 2012. he didn't win all of them. but he did win four of those races. and it didn't take him a ton of money to do it. and as we reported last night, the nra's own spending was profoundly impotent in the last election. less than 1% of their multimillion-dollar expenditure
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats...
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that's what nra stands for. and they're not really engaged in a serious discussion about what's going on in the streets of america each and every day. and whether it's new town or aurora or philadelphia big city, small city, in the city, in the suburbs, in rural areas, these are serious matters. and we have to be serious about them. >> since you said they're not really as constitute, let me show you some that are being extreme as you've talked about common sense and reasonably coming to common ground. rocker ted nugent compared gun owners to rosa parks. he told the web site "world net daily," quote, there will come a time when the gun owners of america, the law-abiding gun owners of america will be the rosa parks and we will sit down on the front seat of the bus. case closed. i wonder if he's off his rocker, pun intended. >>> but then you have yesterday, the judge report showed pictures of hitler and stalin next to a link on the white house considering executive action on gun control. i mean, these are, like, wa
that's what nra stands for. and they're not really engaged in a serious discussion about what's going on in the streets of america each and every day. and whether it's new town or aurora or philadelphia big city, small city, in the city, in the suburbs, in rural areas, these are serious matters. and we have to be serious about them. >> since you said they're not really as constitute, let me show you some that are being extreme as you've talked about common sense and reasonably coming to...
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the nra chief lobbyist reacting to the president's speech. and in the rewrite tonight, why conservatives who have been wrong about everything, and i do mean everything, could not understand president obama's inaugural address. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood,
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the nra says it has gotten 100,000 new members. people do seem to be more active on this issue, but do you see any minds changing particularly in congress? >> i do. i think people are starting to talk. that's why you see even nra members who say i'm a gun holder and a ban on assault weapons and ban on magazines is something that's common sense that we have to think about. i think it is not reasonable to think it is easier to get a gun, talking about background checks, it's easier to get a gun then get a driver's license. that does not make sense in our modern day society. >> you don't think you'll have to take assault weapons off the table to get reform? >> i think what the administration is doing, we have to make sure we know and we have a complete background check with no loopholes. we've got to take the magazines that people have access to off the table. let's do that. that is something we can accomplish. i want to make sure we do something first that makes sense and make us all safer. taking away those magazines. me coming from
the nra says it has gotten 100,000 new members. people do seem to be more active on this issue, but do you see any minds changing particularly in congress? >> i do. i think people are starting to talk. that's why you see even nra members who say i'm a gun holder and a ban on assault weapons and ban on magazines is something that's common sense that we have to think about. i think it is not reasonable to think it is easier to get a gun, talking about background checks, it's easier to get a...
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arguments, yes, they are single issue and there may be a lot of opponents to the nra, but the nra's argument is several fold, and it includes the fact that this kind of legislation, in their view, simply will not work, will not deal with the problem. high-capacity magazines, there are so many of them that the ability to somehow stamp them out of existence through new regulation doesn't deal with their ability to be trafficked within the country. the same is true of what are called assault weapons, so i think that part of the argument that will go forward is going to be on the merits about what is actually effective in combatting this kind of violence and whether there's enough resources being dedicated to, you know, the ability to track people's mental health or lack thereof and their capacity to commit crime as they are trying to run down 30-bullet magazine clips. the president's argument here, though, is similar to the nra's. when the nra says we should have armed guards in schools, they are saying if there is any potential to diminish the carnage in a situation like this, then we
arguments, yes, they are single issue and there may be a lot of opponents to the nra, but the nra's argument is several fold, and it includes the fact that this kind of legislation, in their view, simply will not work, will not deal with the problem. high-capacity magazines, there are so many of them that the ability to somehow stamp them out of existence through new regulation doesn't deal with their ability to be trafficked within the country. the same is true of what are called assault...
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one thing that people don't understand about the nra is that the nra lobbies both republicans and democrats. the nra is very, very effective in local elections, and municipal elections and statewide elections and they do it on both sides of the aisle. so this is a political process challenge, not just a party challenge or a partisan challenge. so what i would challenge e lekted officials to do is to rise to the occasion. you might be afraid of being out flanked by an nra supported contender, but the issues are just too overwhelming. to be honest, they're really too simple. we're not talking about taking away everyone's guns. 06 sli, the congressman from north carolina where a lot of people hunt and people want to be able to defend themselves. he understands those things. but at the end of the day, what we need are universal background checks. we need row bost assault weapons ban. and then we also have to pay some attention to other things with the ways in which we can wrestle with the proliferation of guns that are already here. but the first step are these things that people have been talk
one thing that people don't understand about the nra is that the nra lobbies both republicans and democrats. the nra is very, very effective in local elections, and municipal elections and statewide elections and they do it on both sides of the aisle. so this is a political process challenge, not just a party challenge or a partisan challenge. so what i would challenge e lekted officials to do is to rise to the occasion. you might be afraid of being out flanked by an nra supported contender,...
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> deet spite a lot of the nra -- the nra has a 41% favorability rating. you are right that it's a lot more favorable than some people might anticipate, and it's also been very stable. these numbers are almost identical to what we saw in 2011. of course, that was two years before the newtown shootings. the nra's negative numbers. the nra is in a better position heading into this fight than it was ten years ago. >> we talk about brands, chris alissa, the nra brand has been fairly toxic in many of the debates, the gun debates especially since newtown, but their membership base is broad and deep. is that where you read from this? >> i would say two things to take from it. one, andrea, and mark makes this point. one is that, look, the nra i think inside the beltway and in big cities in this country is akin to a curse word. it is not in the vast majority of the country. there is a disconnect that exists here about the nra. the second thing, and you hit on it, which is right, this is a membership organization four million strong. they continue to add members in
> deet spite a lot of the nra -- the nra has a 41% favorability rating. you are right that it's a lot more favorable than some people might anticipate, and it's also been very stable. these numbers are almost identical to what we saw in 2011. of course, that was two years before the newtown shootings. the nra's negative numbers. the nra is in a better position heading into this fight than it was ten years ago. >> we talk about brands, chris alissa, the nra brand has been fairly toxic...
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you've already seen democrats who previously had basically stuck to the nra line, breaking with the nra. you have seen republicans in the house of representatives saying they are willing to consider pretty remarkable gun legislation. i just think this mythology that's been built up about the impossibility of gun reform has been shattered. it's been shattered first by what happened in newtown. everything is different after those 20 kids died. but it's also changed as people looked at the nra's performance in the last election. the nra only won about 20% of the races that they played in so to the extent that there are any members that are worried about the political implications of taking on the nra, they just aren't there like they used to be, maybe ten years ago. >> but when you talk about the nra, and we talk about people on the left who might be obstacles as well in the senate, we have to look at which came first, the chicken or the egg. was it the fact that senate democrats like harry reid and joe manchin were always pro-gun or were they pro-gun because they get support of the nra, a
you've already seen democrats who previously had basically stuck to the nra line, breaking with the nra. you have seen republicans in the house of representatives saying they are willing to consider pretty remarkable gun legislation. i just think this mythology that's been built up about the impossibility of gun reform has been shattered. it's been shattered first by what happened in newtown. everything is different after those 20 kids died. but it's also changed as people looked at the nra's...
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-- >> he also threw the nra a gift in this reform package. he put in money for schools -- for officers in schools. >> yes. >> he offered institutions $14 billion to put 15,000 cops on the street. it's not like he totally ignored the nra. >> the most surprising thing of this week was when the president said the other day i'm going to give everything i have to this. that's something a president rarely says. he is drawing a line in the sand, especially at the beginning of a second term, knowing that if he does not get it, it's going to show that he is weak on capitol hill, will hurt everything else. >> michael, you have brilliantly teed up our next segment. >> accidentally. >> after the break -- >> he will meet you afterwards. >> frank rich, anti-defamation society. >> president obama is just a few days away from embarking on his next four years, but his inauguration speech, while segment, ain't got nothing on his second term to do list. we will put the president's agenda and historical context to the lens of michael next on "now." at optionsxpr
-- >> he also threw the nra a gift in this reform package. he put in money for schools -- for officers in schools. >> yes. >> he offered institutions $14 billion to put 15,000 cops on the street. it's not like he totally ignored the nra. >> the most surprising thing of this week was when the president said the other day i'm going to give everything i have to this. that's something a president rarely says. he is drawing a line in the sand, especially at the beginning of a...
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your don't win the point putting down that the nra says no. they're defending as a special interest group what they believe. but i think you can explain like i just tried to do, maybe nobody agrees, but there's a pragmatic reason you don't want assault weapons ban so they don't get in the hands of criminals that take down the law enforcement officials. >> congressman, we had a banner on the screen saying that mike bloomberg will be on "the rachel maddow show" and an interesting player in this pouring and is already and really pouring a lot of money in to supporting candidate who is will support gun control measures and protecting them particularly in republican primaries. he's not looking at this just as let's elect more democrats for gun control but the republican party saying why can't we win over votes there, too? you can look back to 1994 when the assault weapons ban was enacted. 46 republicans in the house, one of them, john kasich and a lot changed about the ideological divide between the parties is shaking out and republican primary cha
your don't win the point putting down that the nra says no. they're defending as a special interest group what they believe. but i think you can explain like i just tried to do, maybe nobody agrees, but there's a pragmatic reason you don't want assault weapons ban so they don't get in the hands of criminals that take down the law enforcement officials. >> congressman, we had a banner on the screen saying that mike bloomberg will be on "the rachel maddow show" and an interesting...
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i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not about this hard-line political organization. i think the data from gun manufacturers really makes a point that gun owners really need a different organization. >> thank you both for your time this evening. and don't forget to tune into melissa harris-perry saturdays and sundays at 10 a.m. here on msnbc. >>> coming up, president obama's big step towardss -- plus, remember when todd legitimate rape akin said that. what are these people thinking? i guess they're not. >>> and should president obama be on mt. rushmore? it is a question getting a lot of attenti
i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not...
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the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started with the election of a black president. >> how so? connect. >> let's remember that in 2008 obama had campaigned for his first election being afraid to mention the words gun and law in the same paragraph. he never said a single thing about gun control, gun safety laws. yet when he was elected, gun stores sold out of guns. gun stores sold out of ammunition because the gun lobby had persuaded them that this guy is coming for your guns. they're already paranoid, extremist -- >> let's get to that overlay. >> they don't like progressive, democratic administrati
the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started...
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because if he does turn his back on the nra. and not just about the nra. i would say the nra has done a very good job of delegitimatizing itself with these ads. but that doesn't mean there's not a huge power of gun owners in a loot of these states, especially in red states and harry reid's got to worry about that as he comes into the next election. >> all right, gang, i want to say that we need to welcome michael steele aboard. we have wedged him into this conversation. there he is. mr. steele, it's good to have you onboard. >> good to be with you. >> we're going to shift topics because a lot of talk has been made about this gop retreat. let me get everybody up to speed on thisment republican lawmakers going to be meeting in williamsburg coming up for three days the main agenda there is looking at how to broaden the tent. how to bring in more minority voters, how to bring in more women on this. michael, they're really getting beat across the nose on this one because they are apparently doing this in a place where it is named for a former slave owner. and s
because if he does turn his back on the nra. and not just about the nra. i would say the nra has done a very good job of delegitimatizing itself with these ads. but that doesn't mean there's not a huge power of gun owners in a loot of these states, especially in red states and harry reid's got to worry about that as he comes into the next election. >> all right, gang, i want to say that we need to welcome michael steele aboard. we have wedged him into this conversation. there he is. mr....
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, join the nra. so they are doing what the nra always has done, and that is drawing a very hard and firm line in the sand, very black and white terms. no shades of gray here and no budging on what they fundamentally believe is a threat to the second -- their second amendment rights. and they are, of course, going to be on the hill lobbying democrats, lobbying republicans. so far, you haven't seen any republicans break ranks with the nra. and we'll have to keep an eye on senate democrats. >> and, in fact, marco rubio, chuck, has put out a statement saying that nothing the president is proposing would have stopped the massacre at sandy hook. president obama is targeting the rights of law-abiding citizens instead of what caused the violence. that is a very strong response from someone who's talked about as a 2016 potential candidate. >> and he also accused the president of abusing his executive power in the 23 actions. when you read the 23 actions, frankly, these are very weak directives. there's not mu
, join the nra. so they are doing what the nra always has done, and that is drawing a very hard and firm line in the sand, very black and white terms. no shades of gray here and no budging on what they fundamentally believe is a threat to the second -- their second amendment rights. and they are, of course, going to be on the hill lobbying democrats, lobbying republicans. so far, you haven't seen any republicans break ranks with the nra. and we'll have to keep an eye on senate democrats....